As I approach the 12-year anniversary of Healthification, I’ve been reflecting on the incredible vegans I’ve had the privilege to connect with over the years.

The individuals who give me hope and heart. The people with true clarity about what—and who—they stand for. And the courage to speak up… and act, even when it’s uncomfortable, unpopular, or misunderstood.

My original plan was to record a solo episode and share some of these vegan heroes with you.

However when I revisited this conversation with Dr. Melanie Joy—the very first high-profile vegan advocate to ever join the podcast—I found myself completely absorbed in her wisdom all over again.

And I thought… instead of trying to summarise it, why not bring it back?

So today, I’m re-sharing this powerful conversation from 7.5 years ago—because it’s just as relevant now as it was then.

Here are the show notes for the original 552 episode:

Dr Melanie Joy, Carnism and Creating Effective Communication Between Vegans and Non Vegans.

In the interview we cover:

To learn more about Dr Melanie Joy please check out:

Beyond Beliefs: A Guide to Improving Relationships and Communication for Vegans, Vegetarians, and Meat Eaters.

Also, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism

Plus of course: http://www.carnism.org/

Connect with Beyond Carnism across the socials: Instagram |  Youtube  | Facebook | LinkedIn 

That’s it for this week in Healthification.

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With love and gratitude plant friends.

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